Curse

iontichy · Jan 13, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

Hi all,

after playing this game for some time, I'm experiencing a major drop in motivation. It seems that you need ridiculous amounts of monetary units to play this game in the long run, especially to get elite armor sets and other nice stuff.

Now for my basic problem. This is supposed to be a game, right? Which means: something you do in your free time to relax, have some fun, right?

So why do I find myself stuck with another job, grinding for money like an idiot in order to be able to enjoy whats left of the game? Why does ANet turn this into such a major pain in the @ss while it could be fun? Someone enlighten me on this point please. As much as I like GW, this aspect is pissing me off so massively, I'm headed for deinstall. Fast.

randomtime · Jan 13, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

Guild wars is ment to be antigrind, you don't need high level armour, and it's not going to hurt if you don't. If you are playing WoW, this would be much worse, belive me.

Squishy ftw · Jan 13, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47

You do not need that money. You can get max damage weapons and armor from collectors.

If all what's left of the game for you is to collect shiny armor and weapons but you don't want to do whatever it is to get that money, then I guess you have to deinstill already.

There's a lot to enjoy besides shiny stuff tho. HM? Elite areas? PvP?

The Sender · Jan 13, 2008, 03:59 PM // 15:59

That's cool, man, but you don't need to grind all day long to enjoy the game. 15k armor is easy to get if you save up, the only 15k armor you would probably need to specifically farm for is Obsidian due to the price of ectos. Otherwise, you can use BMP/collector/drops for weapons.

You don't need to grind all day long for money, unless you're starting from scratch. Even then you should save money from quests/missions. You make a lot more money in hard mode, I always get at least a few plat from each HM mission/vanquishing expedition. It is easy to amass a few hundred plat over time by playing PvE without any farming.

Do some hard mode missions, man. You don't need to grind on monsters all day. If you require competition, farm something harder or do PvP/Elite Areas. There are a lot of things do to.

If you're wise you can trade high-end items to gain a lot of money, which is much faster than grinding all day long. You don't like spending hours in an outpost to sell an item? Use the community-provided auctions or trade forums.

GW has much less grind when compared to other online games. It is similar to a single-player game with online functionality. The grind is almost non-existent. Any grind is player-induced, there is no mandatory grind.

randomtime · Jan 13, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09

That said, feel free to take a GW break, we all do!

Quaker · Jan 13, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

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Originally Posted by iontichy

So why do I find myself stuck with another job, grinding for money like an idiot in order to be able to enjoy whats left of the game? .

I don't exactly know what you mean when you say "grinding for money". Are you out "farming" just to get money to buy fancy stuff?
If you are, that could be your problem. Personally, I've never found "farming" for anything (money or materials) to be either fun or even cost effective.
The simplest way to make money is to simply play the game - pick up all your drops and coins, sell the junk to the merchant and sell the good stuff to other people. Sell the good stuff in game if you don't mind standing around in Kamadan or L.A., or use the buy/sell forums or auctions here on Guru.

But at any rate, as has already been said - you don't need the fancy stuff to play the game. The fancy armor and fancy weapons are not any better than the plain ones, stats-wise.

Olim Chill · Jan 13, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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It seems that you need ridiculous amounts of monetary units to play this game in the long run, especially to get elite armor sets and other nice stuff.

As noted above, elite armor and "nice stuff" really hasn't much to do with actually playing the game. You can move just fine through the game with non-elite max armor - even less than max. If by "nice stuff" you mean good weapons, you can get those through collectors. The game does provide the essentials.

After that, if you still want "nicer stuff", then grind and bear it.

iontichy · Jan 13, 2008, 06:08 PM // 18:08

The wisest suggestion so far, was to take a break. Maybe I should do that then.

Rothaga · Jan 13, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

As for Anet's perspective, they cant make everything really easy to get, then everyone will be running around with the coolest looking armor, and it will just be too bland, they have to make it somewhat hard to get.

Fril Estelin · Jan 13, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Hi there,

What are you trying to buy? All elite armors? I found no problem getting my first one and can probably get the 2 next ones quickly, but I've been buying minis instead. And all this time I've only been doing missions and quests, plus selling a few dozen alcoholic drinks, nothing really special and no farming. Maybe you're spending too much? Or not selling the right way?

Biostem · Jan 13, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Um... yeah...

You can get max armor and weapons virtually for free. If you want 15K armor or rare weapon skins, then you gotta work for them. Perhaps you are setting an unrealistic time frame for getting elite and/or rare items, and placing the blame on others instead of accepting that these things are fluff and pure vanity items. Getting the best level of armor or the maximum damage on a weapon is quite easy. The only grind is what you make of it.

strcpy · Jan 14, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

I guess I would also say - why do you feel the need to get those items? They offer no advantage whatsoever and in many cases don't even look as nice as the common stuff. Are you perhaps also motivated by the rarity? If so, then just realize that you can not have rare stuff trivial to obtain - otherwise it isn't rare.

You don't need it at all, there is *no* need to grind for gold in this game. The only reason is for vanities sake and it will not have any vanity value if everyone can simply get it, there has to be *some* work in getting it. Heck, if you want to plunk down 10 (or is it still 5) dollars per campaign you don't even need to grind faction for unlocks in PvP - which was previously the only real required grind in the game (but then only if you played higher end PvP and again we were looking at "higher end").

ajmorgan25 · Jan 14, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18

uninstall*

Not deinstall.

iontichy · Jan 14, 2008, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Main motiviation for getting elites and stuff is to be able to transfer into GW2.

Etta · Jan 14, 2008, 11:19 AM // 11:19

No such thing as tranfer from GW1 to GW2. Those titles, minis, armors, weapons that you put on HOM will unlock something in GW2, but you can't just walk in the HOM in GW2 and use any of them.

As for the grind, GW has less of that than any other online rpg put there. Unless you want to max the titles or any of the flashy stuff, which is as always, an optional and entirely up to you to do so.

Don't like grind in an rpg? Play an FPS.

pamelf · Jan 14, 2008, 02:03 PM // 14:03

Maybe try playing another game for a little while. I've taken GW breaks and one day i'll wake up and just have a sudden urge to play. It's a great re-motivator.

King Farquaad · Jan 14, 2008, 02:43 PM // 14:43

Don't play every day because it gets boring to play evey single day. take a break then you will look forward to play it again xD

Commander Ryker · Jan 14, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Moved to Riverside. This is not a question but more of a discussion.

Ctb · Jan 14, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Don't like grind in an rpg? Play an FPS.

Most FPS games have ladders on them now.

Personette · Jan 14, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

IMHO, if you don't like the fantasy economy aspect of GW then it isn't the game for you. Games are all about playing at various kinds of real-life struggles only with all the scary stuff (risk, pressure, skill, etc.) drastically reduced.

And man, it is so much easier to afford the nicest stuff in Guild Wars than in real life! And it is so much less risky to spend all your gold in Guild Wars than it is in real life! So if you think to yourself, "I can't afford to buy that Prada dress and pay the rent - guess the dress will have to wait," it can be kind of satisfying to play a game and think, "In a couple of hours, I will be able to buy a new set of elite armor - ha ha, no rent, no rainy day to save for, no guilt!"

Just imagining a day when work = getting the perks you want instead of making ends meet is a kind of pleasant fantasy. If you don't think that way, try hiking or basketball or something.